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	<title>Comments on: Web-based web development</title>
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	<description>and I mean it</description>
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		<title>By: Scott McMullan</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McMullan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I really like your earlier WikiRAD post as well.  You mentioned JotSpot in that post, but not in the context of a development platform, which is what Jot really is.  (The wiki is the biggest and most well known app on Jot, but it&#039;s just one of a growing set of collaborative Jot apps.)

You&#039;re spot on w/the need for a web-based IDE. Experience developing apps in Jot points to that, and many of our developers are asking for that as their #1 request.  Right now our developers working on bigger apps are abandoning the wiki&#039;s textarea and using Eclipse or vi, and then syncing pages into the Jot cloud w/Ant for testing.  This is a temporary solution, and ignores the power of the browser-based vision you paint.  

True through the web programming isn&#039;t going to really take off until there&#039;s an end-to-end solution, and the IDE (or at least a set of tools that facilitate the edit/test/debug cycle) is at the heart of that process.

Full disclosure: I work at JotSpot :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I really like your earlier WikiRAD post as well.  You mentioned JotSpot in that post, but not in the context of a development platform, which is what Jot really is.  (The wiki is the biggest and most well known app on Jot, but it&#8217;s just one of a growing set of collaborative Jot apps.)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re spot on w/the need for a web-based IDE. Experience developing apps in Jot points to that, and many of our developers are asking for that as their #1 request.  Right now our developers working on bigger apps are abandoning the wiki&#8217;s textarea and using Eclipse or vi, and then syncing pages into the Jot cloud w/Ant for testing.  This is a temporary solution, and ignores the power of the browser-based vision you paint.  </p>
<p>True through the web programming isn&#8217;t going to really take off until there&#8217;s an end-to-end solution, and the IDE (or at least a set of tools that facilitate the edit/test/debug cycle) is at the heart of that process.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I work at JotSpot <img src='http://blog.forret.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web-based web development</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web-based web development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kevin Lawver pointed me to this interesting post on the future of web based IDEs by Peter Forret. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kevin Lawver pointed me to this interesting post on the future of web based IDEs by Peter Forret. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Filip</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Filip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how about Ourmedia and the Internet Archive as free storage ... 
I&#039;m 100% with you except I do like the Ning idea. I do think we&#039;re not far from realising the promise Notes made, but was never able to realise ... let the users assemble and &quot;build&quot; their own applications, meeting their specific needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how about Ourmedia and the Internet Archive as free storage &#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m 100% with you except I do like the Ning idea. I do think we&#8217;re not far from realising the promise Notes made, but was never able to realise &#8230; let the users assemble and &#8220;build&#8221; their own applications, meeting their specific needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnHenry link (web-based IDE for RubyOnRails) is corrected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnHenry link (web-based IDE for RubyOnRails) is corrected!</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link to the rubyonrails IDE gives an 404 error :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link to the rubyonrails IDE gives an 404 error <img src='http://blog.forret.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/03/web-based-web-development/comment-page-1/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web2.0 rulez ;-)

http://feed43.com/humo_linke_boel.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web2.0 rulez <img src='http://blog.forret.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://feed43.com/humo_linke_boel.xml" rel="nofollow">http://feed43.com/humo_linke_boel.xml</a></p>
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