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	<title>Comments on: Owner of the &#8220;Amen Break&#8221;</title>
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	<description>and I mean it</description>
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		<title>By: Joe B</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/06/owner-of-the-amen-break/comment-page-1/#comment-333692</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The creators of the Amen Break should profit from the break because it is their creation _ whether is five seconds or five hours, it is still their creation. 

Often we have one opportunity to take our talents and create something that will improve the quality of our lives. Considering the phenomenon this drum break created, it appears to have been their chance.

That they&#039;ve ended up with nothing is disgraceful. For any sampler to say that they have no right to lay claim to their creation is like someone decorating his home with stylish furniture then  claiming that the good-looking room is his creation. 

He didn&#039;t make the pieces in the room. He arranged them. There&#039;s a very big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The creators of the Amen Break should profit from the break because it is their creation _ whether is five seconds or five hours, it is still their creation. </p>
<p>Often we have one opportunity to take our talents and create something that will improve the quality of our lives. Considering the phenomenon this drum break created, it appears to have been their chance.</p>
<p>That they&#8217;ve ended up with nothing is disgraceful. For any sampler to say that they have no right to lay claim to their creation is like someone decorating his home with stylish furniture then  claiming that the good-looking room is his creation. </p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t make the pieces in the room. He arranged them. There&#8217;s a very big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: just a thought</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/06/owner-of-the-amen-break/comment-page-1/#comment-251465</link>
		<dc:creator>just a thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is crazy talk. pay for a drum beat? it is like saying i own the c chord because i played it first in my music. if someone rip the song structure of his song thats one thing but a loop its just a greedy person asking for people money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is crazy talk. pay for a drum beat? it is like saying i own the c chord because i played it first in my music. if someone rip the song structure of his song thats one thing but a loop its just a greedy person asking for people money</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Berg</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/06/owner-of-the-amen-break/comment-page-1/#comment-219659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey man no doubt you have every right to want your money out of us drum and bass people. Im just gonna say a few things:

i think the reason that jungle took off the way that it did was not simply because of your break, i think it had alot to do with the growing rave scene and the introduction of ecstasy. people were speeding up their 33rpm vinyl tunes and mixing at 45 because of the amphetamines they were on. whether the genre was house or hiphop, it didnt matter to them as long as it had the speed. xtc is known to be the drum and bass drug. its one of the pillars in the scene, another is the amen break, and another one is the community. its about bringing people together. i mean why not think about it this way: the people you associated with did such a good job on the amen, that millions of people around the world decided they liked the sound of 6 seconds of it and it was asked to stay. millions of people around the world have been able to feel better about themselves to a degree because of it. One of my best friends is a DJ and loves amen based tunes. As soon as he heres one he starts smiling and looks at me like &#039;this is hot&#039;. I dont really see why you care that much, or you think that you are so good. You simply mic&#039;d some drums, people heard it, thought it was a great recording, built a culture on it, all while you were building your career in something else, not like you cared what was going on much in music anyways, now its like 2008 and i hear you guys have packed bags to take legal action for &#039;big producers&#039; @ $1500 per use of the break. i mean its a totally understandable route to take, but why dont you ask nicely? or be like hey mr. DJ/producer duo label, &#039;i think what you are doing is cool with my old toy that i never use anymore, is it cool that i have a slice too maybe once in awhile?&#039; I mean, you have been long gone and definitely thought for dead, and the reverse can probably be said about &#039;Winstons&#039; involvement with music. I mean im not talking about what is legally right or what is possible here. Im talking about the karmic nature of humanity. As soon as you start knocking on doors w/ lawyer A on your side, words gonna get around that you are a prick.
What Producer is gonna respond to your emails, the door, your letters, or your phone calls if they already know that you are going around all mormon style door to door stuff ? I mean &#039;how nicely are you able to put it?&#039; is basically what I&#039;m asking. I assume that this how you would go about it. I also assume that you could somewhat interpret this like an adult would. I think what would be a better route to take would be to show up at some events like WMC or Ultrafest in Miami one year and just talk to some people, and tell them how you feel. People understand what you are probably going through, people at those drum and bass events will care about you and what you were doing. You could get on stage and make a speech about it. People would love that. People would love you too, instead of hate you for pressuring them by presence of lawyer to milk their shallow musician pockets. I mean I could totally see you doing something amazing for the drum and bass scene in a 15 min interview or some other type of involvement somehow. People would love love love to have you around, and Im sure that if you were personable about it, somebody would be willing to pay you to be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey man no doubt you have every right to want your money out of us drum and bass people. Im just gonna say a few things:</p>
<p>i think the reason that jungle took off the way that it did was not simply because of your break, i think it had alot to do with the growing rave scene and the introduction of ecstasy. people were speeding up their 33rpm vinyl tunes and mixing at 45 because of the amphetamines they were on. whether the genre was house or hiphop, it didnt matter to them as long as it had the speed. xtc is known to be the drum and bass drug. its one of the pillars in the scene, another is the amen break, and another one is the community. its about bringing people together. i mean why not think about it this way: the people you associated with did such a good job on the amen, that millions of people around the world decided they liked the sound of 6 seconds of it and it was asked to stay. millions of people around the world have been able to feel better about themselves to a degree because of it. One of my best friends is a DJ and loves amen based tunes. As soon as he heres one he starts smiling and looks at me like &#8216;this is hot&#8217;. I dont really see why you care that much, or you think that you are so good. You simply mic&#8217;d some drums, people heard it, thought it was a great recording, built a culture on it, all while you were building your career in something else, not like you cared what was going on much in music anyways, now its like 2008 and i hear you guys have packed bags to take legal action for &#8216;big producers&#8217; @ $1500 per use of the break. i mean its a totally understandable route to take, but why dont you ask nicely? or be like hey mr. DJ/producer duo label, &#8216;i think what you are doing is cool with my old toy that i never use anymore, is it cool that i have a slice too maybe once in awhile?&#8217; I mean, you have been long gone and definitely thought for dead, and the reverse can probably be said about &#8216;Winstons&#8217; involvement with music. I mean im not talking about what is legally right or what is possible here. Im talking about the karmic nature of humanity. As soon as you start knocking on doors w/ lawyer A on your side, words gonna get around that you are a prick.<br />
What Producer is gonna respond to your emails, the door, your letters, or your phone calls if they already know that you are going around all mormon style door to door stuff ? I mean &#8216;how nicely are you able to put it?&#8217; is basically what I&#8217;m asking. I assume that this how you would go about it. I also assume that you could somewhat interpret this like an adult would. I think what would be a better route to take would be to show up at some events like WMC or Ultrafest in Miami one year and just talk to some people, and tell them how you feel. People understand what you are probably going through, people at those drum and bass events will care about you and what you were doing. You could get on stage and make a speech about it. People would love that. People would love you too, instead of hate you for pressuring them by presence of lawyer to milk their shallow musician pockets. I mean I could totally see you doing something amazing for the drum and bass scene in a 15 min interview or some other type of involvement somehow. People would love love love to have you around, and Im sure that if you were personable about it, somebody would be willing to pay you to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/06/owner-of-the-amen-break/comment-page-1/#comment-185389</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyright &quot;dood&quot; says that &quot;if you have the money then the music can be important&quot;.&quot;But if you are watching everyone and his mother making money from your stuff, then the money becomes very important.
      Also,if you are a member of the ruling class then you may become all noble and shit with other people&#039;s property.Bull &quot;shit purism&quot; from poor people such as we &quot;JUNGLE&quot;folk is not allowed because it stifles creativity.And if we stop creating shit for you bastards to steal, where will you be? Living in Austria eating venison and &quot;clapping&quot; on the first beat!
                Min. Richard L. Spencer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyright &#8220;dood&#8221; says that &#8220;if you have the money then the music can be important&#8221;.&#8221;But if you are watching everyone and his mother making money from your stuff, then the money becomes very important.<br />
      Also,if you are a member of the ruling class then you may become all noble and shit with other people&#8217;s property.Bull &#8220;shit purism&#8221; from poor people such as we &#8220;JUNGLE&#8221;folk is not allowed because it stifles creativity.And if we stop creating shit for you bastards to steal, where will you be? Living in Austria eating venison and &#8220;clapping&#8221; on the first beat!<br />
                Min. Richard L. Spencer</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.forret.com/2006/06/owner-of-the-amen-break/comment-page-1/#comment-145090</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man i understand what copyright dood is saying but hey, which is more important - the money or the music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man i understand what copyright dood is saying but hey, which is more important &#8211; the money or the music?</p>
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