More fun with Myers-Briggs

I’ve been reading quitea lot on Myers-Briggs for my previous post “Myers-Briggs typology“, and some of it is too good not to post it here, so here is my second MBTI post! I’ve also made an new MBTI web tool for my web tools collection, that you can use to quickly check the facts for each type.

MBTI at first sight?

Get this: according to socionics, it is possible to do Visual Identification (V.I.) of the Myers-Briggs type. They prove it by showing 4 pictures (Malcolm McDowell, Sting, and two familiar actors-I-can’t-name) with -granted- similar features, and they’re all ISTJ (Sting a duty fulfiller?). I’ll be honest, I don’t buy this. I know that you can sometimes guess character traits from someone’s face (e.g. a ‘kind’ face vs. a ‘hard’ face), and I can understand how your physical attributes (pretty/ugly, thin/chubby) might influence your behaviour and consequently your MBTI type, but I’m not sure this method would withstand a critical scientific eye.
MBTI: visual identification

You’re a dyslexic INFJ? What are the odds?

MBTI distribution
The population is not evenly distributed over the 16 subtypes, some are more common than others. According to statistics from wikipedia, the most common types are ISFJ (13.8%), ESFJ (12.3%) and ISTJ (11.6%). The least common categories are INFJ (1.5%), ENTJ (1.8%) and INTJ (2.1%). Since the most prominent ISFJ only differs by 1 character from the least occurring INFJ, one could speculate that the ‘N’ (Intuitive) component does not match well with the ‘I’ (Introvert), ‘F’ (Feeling) and/or ‘J’ (Judging). My guess is that a ‘J’ normally goes together with an ‘S’ (Sensing), which makes the INFJ a weird combo (looking at the other N/J stats, this works out). This actually means that the 2nd and 4th criterium are *gasp* correlated.

Also interesting, not every person likes to talk about his Myers-Briggs label. I’ve done a quick Google count for each of the types. A high number can mean: people of type X like to talk about themselves, or X is a type that is talked about a lot by people in general. So the reason can be vanity or (in-)sanity. The low hitcount types are ESFJ (107K hits), ISFP (146K) and ENFJ (156K). At the other side we find the popular topics of: INTP (588K), INTJ (724K) and -get ready- ISTP (1.190K). The reason for this last number might be that there is contamination from the likes of “Institut Supérieur des Techniques Productiques” and the “International Solar Terrestrial Physics” NASA program. I don’t see why the ‘Mechanic’ type would enjoy so much more interest.

I’d marry you, but you’re an ISTJ

This Myers-Briggs system gives an new angle to the whole boy-meets-girl thing too! Imagine you’re an ENFP (‘Inspirer’), like me. Can you just shack up with anybody? Nope! Any girl from my complete opposite, ISTJ or ‘Duty fulfiller’, is obviously a no-go: we would have a ‘conflicting‘ relationship (you can read the details, but for now: it’s bad). But that’s not all: with ENFJ (Giver) I’d have a quasi-identical relationship: major misunderstanding. If I were to have dinner with e.g. Claudia, that’s something I’d have to watch out for (and also not eat spaghetti with a white shirt). If you’re not easily pleased (which I’m not), then ENTJ, ESFJ, INTJ, ISFJ, INFP and INTP are also out of the question. Which basically leaves me with the ISTP (Mechanic), ESTP (Doer) and INFJ (Scientist), or only something like 12% of the total population. Add to that requirements for intelligence, humour and some aesthetic considerations -oh, and the girl being single- and one can see how celibate can be such a hard condition to solve. Check out the logic on these inter-type relations on this quasi-mathematical page. Of course, if you believe a different opinion, I’d have to be looking out for INTJ and INFJ. Oh well …

If you want to ‘find your type’ (in whatever meaning), use my MBTI tool.

14 thoughts on “More fun with Myers-Briggs”

  1. interesting subject – I work with the profile indicator as a professional consultant. Glad to see that people reflect on it.
    Keep up the nice work
    And Neither Jung nor Isabel Myers-Briggs og Catheringe Briggs ever claimed that it would be able to predict anything other than our most prefered way to energize our selves, gather information about our life, make decisions and implement them.
    Should you ever be interested in having a character-assesment – try CPI 434 or CPI260
    Goog validated and reliable test.
    Safe summer,
    Steen

  2. Socionics has more mis-truths than any popular site should have. And don’t kid yourself, this is a site with many hits, just check out its alexa rating. I have studied the myers-briggs over the years and have become a connoisseur. Sites full of false and misleading information such as typelogic and socionics are dangerous; not only because their visitors may have otherwise gone to sites with accurate information-such as keirsy.com- but because they can mislead people into thinking false things about their own or others personalities. This leads to an antithesis of what the myers-briggs should be about, which is accurate self knowledge and productive, healthy growth.

    Ben Harrison
    http://www.famoustype.com

  3. Aren’t you forgetting someting?

    ENFP’s can have realationsips with ENFP’s

    I like you artile, its funny and creative.

    But, I think your being narrow minded. The ISTP isnt that deep, good luck killing yourself trying to inspire them.

    Also, I believe that ENFP’s just want someone to listen to all the crazy stuff that is comming out of our heads and to be able to add to what we are saying and deepen our understanding of life
    who would be a better partner than a therapist, THe counselor…
    the INFP. and the INFJ.

    INFP’s are great.
    If you want to break it down into a science and your hell bent on the MBTI, theorys, and sociononics (sp?) then yes you are doomed. A lot of balanced NF’s get along awsome with other balanced NF’s.
    Dont be so negative, or else you will never find anyone!

    😉

    Christina

  4. Sting either passes as an INTJ or ISTJ. More INTJ cause he is a vry private person by nature and prefers to come up with creative ideas on projects. Who knows though.

  5. Would like to know which of the 16 MBTI types are most prone to dyslexia.

    I’m an eNtp with very strong N factor & have the gift (& curse) of dyslexia. I believe, dyslexia stems from the N factor based on my experience. What do you think?

  6. MBTI and socionics are vastly different takes on personality typing…they simply are not compatible in any meaningful way. Thus, your descriptions of conflicting relationships, as well as the population breakdowns will differ based on the system on which you are basing things. I often wish people would stop assigning population breakdowns to 4-letter codes, and instead base them on a persons preferred functions. That is the true path to enlightenment.

  7. 1) Visual identification – is in main – intuitive identification and can’t be only socionics attribute (unofficialy MBTIs use it surely). Socionists use different methods, i.e. – tests, interview etc, VI is not main method of them – only one of methods.
    Different socionists not rare have different opinions about type of concrete person. Universally recognized school, indisputable guru, procedure of type indentificaton, or a single supervisory organization are absent in socionics. There for, the opinion of http://www.socionics.com – is not the opinion of “socionics”. (P.S. My opinion: type of Sting is probably ENTP, McDowell – ENFJ)
    2) If your type is ENFP, then (if types of you and other people are identified right) good types for _intensive, close and long relations_ are: ISTP, ESTJ, ISFP, INTP(it’s not bad! whatever who talk), INFJ, ENFP. Bad types for _that kind of relations_ are: ESTP, ISTJ, ENFJ, INFP, ISFJ, ENTJ, INTJ, and in classic ESFJ (I have a doubt in this case). Other are not so bad, but bad for marriage for ex.
    Intertype relations – is theory (not a fact) based on type modeling of Augustinavichute (Model ‘A’) and partially on experience of using it. It’s not understandable without knowing of Model ‘A’. You may look lists of celebrities types and watch your feelings about them in movies, shows etc to try understand intertype relations in practice (if your type is realy ENFP, but not ENTP, or something else). My list of celebritys’ types is at socion2.narod.ru – but it’s in russian, as almost all information about socionics (there are many books in Internet) – you may use translators (not added MBTI notations at my site, this would help – sequence of types in my list is classic for socionics: 1-ENTP, 2-ISFP, 3-ESFJ, 4-INTJ, 5-ENFJ, 6-ISTJ, 7-ESTP, 8-INFP, 9-ESFP, 10-INTP, 11-ENTJ, 12-ISFJ, 13-ESTJ, 14-INFJ, 15-ENFP, 16-ISTP).

  8. Hi,

    Such interesting stuff. Thought I would share that I am a celebrating INFP. My husband (of 17 years, plus 6 of dating), is an ESTJ (yes, I swear). We have six children.

    I think we balance each other. Were it not for him, I would perpetually live with my head in the clouds. Were it not for me, he wouldn’t have a sensitive bone in his body.

    There is something to be said for reaching out for people that complete us, and create a unified person capable of overcoming just about any obstacle. In this day and age of separate bank accounts and vacations, I realize we are a rarity. But we wouldn’t have it any other way.

  9. Im an INFJ, and I just found out it’s the rarest type. That is kind of cool. I think the ENFP would be the best match for my type, b/c I love listening to crazy stories that come out of people’s heads lol.

  10. I was looking for some INFJ articles and got this. Very interesting. I’m an INFJ and my brother is an ENFP and we get along perfectly well. I never ever argued with him in my life. We have a deep mutual understanding and connection that shocks even me. I also met an ENTP in the past and he was the most lovable guy I’v ever met.

  11. I believe any two people regardless of MBTI can have a healthy relationship. For example, a ESTP may have a perfectly working relationship with a INFJ, and it would encourage the two of them to strengthen their weaker functions. However certain MBTI relationships will make it a lot easier to communicate naturally.

    Btw, INTJ here.

  12. Personally, I have continued to test the same, but do express some concern over reliability as studies have found that between 39% and 76% of those tested fall into different types upon retesting some weeks or years later.

    INTP

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